Amy and Mary sit down with Kate Aronoff, climate reporter at The New Republic, to talk about wtf nationalization means. They explore America's long and obscured history of it and why, how however messy it may sound, nationalization may be our best shot at transitioning the fossil fuel f*$%bois out of the business of global destruction.

Mary is known for her essays that dissect and interrogate the climate crisis, drawing heavily on her personal experience as a Black woman with deep roots in the South. Her work has appeared in

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